Quote from March Hare :

How long since you last reinstalled your windows?

This should be done yearly. Or monthly depending on usage.

1998 just called. They want their Windows support tips back.

Last edited by J.B., Fri 1 Feb 2008, 04:01.

That guy would have managed to kill 5 people just as well with any average car. M5 is not the issue here. And is it normal that you can easily access a runway like that with a car in the middle of the night or did he break in somehow? And WTH has John Travolta got to do with anything?!

"Fern Bay could be some old but clean f1 track from the 60s with some bumps and something I'd like to call a "soul". If you like it, it likes you. Just stay away from the kerbs and you'll be okay."

There is a problem, you need to master the skill of going full throttle over the curbs in order to win leageu races. The one who is best at it will win, the rest of the track doesn' t matter, just make sure you can floor it over the curbs. What' s worse, i got a league race soon on fe green, bah its all about the chicane, what a playstation like feeling.

I agree with the topic starter, lfs has very few realistic tracks. Only a few aston configs and kv-national have a feeling of being possibly a real life track.
Well, its not really that bad, some configs of south-city could be real life street-tracks too.

Maybe next year there will be a new good track dreaming of..

Woah, that is an impressive video. Great racing, cameras, commentary. Do it at 50 fps and 10000 kbits/s and it's perfect, higher production quality than F1.

BTW how did you get that motion blur in there?

Strange, i was today unable to reproduce the problem.

On purpose riding on the revlimiter. Top speed remained the same. hmm
If nobody else ever noticed the engine is weak, this thread can be deleted lol

Last edited by Bluebird B B, Mon 28 Jan 2008, 18:43.

I noticed today the engine of the fox gets damaged to easily. Going on rev limit in 5th gear for a few sec, because it is faster sometimes, will quickly damage the engine. I think a real simple 2 liter (race) engine desigend to take abuse is a lot stronger irl; Or nearly impossible to destroy which a rev limiter set so low as with the fox.
Offcourse i adjusted my gear-changing, but it just don' t feel right.

For example, the nice small 2 liter engine of honda s2000, can rev much higher, is more powerfull and can take more abuse and will last over 100000 miles even abused now and then. When not abused/raced it will last over 200000 miles.(although the engine can be destroyed sooner, but it will be on purpose or real stupidy if you manage to eliminate an honda engine)

I did not really notice much difference with patch x of y, car has same character, look and feel to me.

I agree the car still feels underpowered. It is nearly impossible to spin this car with a good setup. 10-15 hp extra would be very nice.
Also drag may indeed a bit on the high side; compare it to real life big estate cars with about 190hp will al do about 230km/h on top. In fact i owned once one with only 165hp which got to 235km/h(on the speedo 245 but that is not true speed)

Viper and Sam. Professionalism goes both ways. What makes you think top racing teams are unreasonable towards their drivers all the time?

Your fault entirely. You drove into him on the straight for no reason. And after the first contact it even looks like you tried to turn him around on purpose.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

The thing is that subscription games like WoW work because the entirety of the game is in the online experience. Racing sims are somewhat like that, but in the end, you can always have a trackday on your own. If the content you've paid for in a racing sim no longer works when you've stopped subscribing, I can't see many people biting.

Who says you can have a track day on your own? I predict iracing is going to attemt to make simracing more realistic by limiting track time. And then they're are going to have whopping prizes like chances for sponsored RL racing seats.

I can't really see the business model working but it should be obvious that for the prices they're asking they don't intending to merely offer something that you can more or less get from any other sim.

For me it's the physics I'm mostly interested in and if they're similar to the old papyrus games then that's not good enough. And the video's not very promising at all. I don't even know why they did the splitscreen as the sim car looks nowhere near as alive as the real car.

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+1
Don' t need it myself, but can be very usefull for some people

Quote from Yaamboo :

That looks excellent

Although would do with a deinterlace filter.

How the hell do you get interlacing artifacts into a progressive source anyway?

Last edited by J.B., Thu 24 Jan 2008, 20:24.

I once saw a picture of this thing in its true, upright Decepticon form. Can't find it unfortunately.

I fail to see the significance of this. Aren't most illnesses biased towards men or woman in some way?

Happy to see they seem to be doing well with their business.

Also worth reading their site. http://www.force-dynamics.com/content/whatis401.php

Quote from Force Dynamics :

So, this is great! But what we found when we started testing the 401 is this: Not only is it important to feel the rotation of the car when you've broken the rear end loose, or in a four-wheel drift, but it makes an incredible difference even when the car's glued down to the road. The ability to feel the rotation of the car through the corner means you know where you are in space; that sense of turning tells you even more than your eyes how close you are to the apex. Speaking from personal experience, I tend to have a big problem with apexing too early in the 301 and with 'desk driving'. And while I'm sure you'll notice a few instances of that in the video, the feeling of positioning left-right on the road with the 401 is vastly improved. That rotation axis actually gives you a physical sensation of position on the road, something we didn't anticipate when we started out.

Quote from Mattesa :

I've always dreamed of doing this. Take a car and set it up to be controlled remotely from a computer using a G25 or DFP. Place a camera where the driver sits. Then take the car to a track and have at it.

Something like this would go such a long way in exploring the scope and accuracy of something like LFS. Oh!!! I soooo want to do it!!!

Yeah, I've often thought about how cool that would be. It would settle the whole xyz is too hard/easy to control discussion once and for all. And it would give ultimate answers as to what we can expect from forceless driving simulations. Let's hope that some day a sim nut shows up who's rich enough to set up something like this for fun.

No? Two examples of drivers at Nordschleife
Here you go
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwBJ8SHB42U

and
(jusy ignore the annoying music)
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QiWQl4Eb_jM

Have fun

"ith what I have, power can be changed by poping the hood and turning a knob."
Power of the brake-assist system you mean. Not related to maximum brake-force a certain brake-system can deliver. But it might be impossible for a human being to use it with the brake-assist systems turned off.

So in effect, the knob can feel like turning down brake-power of your car(and making your car no longer legal on public road )

Quote from AndroidXP :

I was replying to wsinda...

oeps sorry

Quote from AndroidXP :

I don't know how far you take "under all circumstances", but generally I have to disagree with this statement.

1) You gain lots of consistency by making sure most corners don't require any special attention to the brakes. Besides that, it's also much less tiring/stressing to be able to just mash the brake with little risk of damage, which can play a big role for your mental performance in longer races.

2) You can greatly prolong the life of your tyres when you don't lock them up, or at least only very seldom.

3) The time lost by not using maximum brake force is minimal, compared to messing up the corner exit. It's better to consistently lose a tenth or two at a corner, than to get the corner right 80% of the time with the 20% screwups costing you seconds in the corner and on the following straight. Especially on public/medium level races consistency quickly pays off big time.

The only real negative thing weaker brakes do is putting you at a disadvantage in position fights. There it doesn't matter if you take the corner optimally - if the opponent can outbrake you, he has gained the position. Your more ideal corner entry won't help you there as he'll be in the way, denying you the line you'd normally take.

Point One, Point Two and Point Three: With these you are telling me you agree, that it is true that this brake-force settings is used as an abs system and is giving an unfair advantage. What is your point? You want to keep this settings? Although it takes away some(for me a lot) of the fun of racing?

With all circumstances i mean, nearly impossible or very bad driving with cold tyres is required to get lockups. Will never happen with regular drivers.


Tyre-life? Yes indeed you have to be carefull with the brakes when they are setup like real brakes. I don' t see a problem there, just dont lockup. Most likely you can do about 1 to 3 laps less on a set of tyres.


@wsinda
There are many fast drivers who use brake-settings so low, it is really not possible to lockup and turn-in braking is very easy. The timeloss of the extra brakedistance is minimal. Not seconds, but more like 0,2-0,3sec but it the advantage is much bigger: Cooler tyres, very easy and digital(brake-point always identical), turn-in easier.

Today i received a set for fbm with brakeforce set as low as 565nm and i though 700nm was already to weak and difficult to get lockups on.. Yet, people are incredably fast with it. Why, bumbs didnt affect them while braking. Also the track required braking while cornering a bit with car out of balance, with such low setting, this gets very easy. Just brake and on turn in keep braking, tyres wont lock anyway.

Last edited by Bluebird B B, Sun 20 Jan 2008, 21:57.

Does anyone watch races?
Today a1gp drivers with thier 550Hp formule like cars, on a very tight track with lots of corners which in lfs would burn your tyres up in two laps.
Drivers all did the same on braking, and let te rear slide a bit to the oudside so the had very nice turn-in on the corners. Also in corners minimal slides all over, because these cars are apparently very nice to drive om the limit.

What did i say sliding?? Hmm according to many lfs people any type of pushing, driving fast etc. is not realistic and the cause of tyre-heat. So convinced it is also not possible in reality, because lfs changes reality. :bowdown:


I think it is a very simple problem, tyres temps and dirt-effect just needs some adjustments in lfs and all will be fine and lfs will be even more great.
I get a bit annoyed that people with real live experience, real racing drivers are told they are driving wrong,They are more or less told told: "Lfs can never be wrong.", You must be doing something wrong.

Sorry i disagree, to those people: Its on telly, youtube etc. see for yourself, real tyres dont overheat so fast and are not as bad with some dirt on it(althougt dirt certainly changes grips levels).

German and British FBMW have been merged to Euro championship and they race as F1 support events.

Hi Jay, nice to see your input here. A question. How does experience factor into the whole selection process? Isn't it quite likely that the "best" person you find is someone with years of high level karting under his belt, who probably would have made it into FBMW anyway, even without the help of the V1 project?

Anyway, grats for setting up this novel concept in motorsports, can't wait to see what comes of it.

Quote from ColeusRattus :

While the first video is awesome, guys, I ask you one thing: what is with this disgusting pervert snuff porn obsession? Having seen my fair share of death and carnage due to my job as a journalist, I can find nothing even remotely amusing about witnessing somebody getting seriously hurt, let alone killed.
If I had a say in here, I'd instaban anyone who posts shit like that from both the forums and S2. Thankfully, you'd labelled it beforehand, so I did not watch it.

+1

Quote from wien :

This version of that video has a shot of the signs around the bollards BTW. Not exactly inconspicuous are they?

It's a big red circle. Nothing really that would prepare you for the consequences. In fact it's the same sign that would usually cost you a 20€ ticket not a totalled car and windscreen in your face.